With public defenders’ offices in seven states refusing to take on new cases or suing to limit their caseloads, this week’s legal-affairs podcast Lawyer2Lawyer looks at the plight of the public defender. Our guests for this program are Bennett H. Brummer, public defender in charge of the Miami-Dade Public Defender Office, who has brought a lawsuit seeking to send more cases to outside private lawyers, and David Carroll, director of research for the National Legal Aid & Defender Association.

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